Sunrise
09 Feb 2006 01:35:39
Cheapo or Custlemm?
Which is better in YOUR opinion, and why?
ccexplore (not logged in)(Guest)
09 Feb 2006 03:14:46
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
The current state of affairs is kinda unfair in one way:  since CustLemm is already more popular here, there's more incentive for people to use it over Cheapo:  more levels available, and your levels will be played more by others.

I'm still dreaming that one day we may achieve the best of both worlds.
Shvegait
09 Feb 2006 05:33:39
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
Dimwits! For obvious reasons. [smiley=smiley.gif] Even though it's vaporware at the moment.

When I joined the boards over a year ago, Cheapo was more popular. Kind of interesting that it's shifted back the other way.
JM
09 Feb 2006 10:14:48
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
I love Custlemm more. It's even better now with the vgaspec program and now you can make your own extended graphics sets for it  :)

Also if you use the crystal graphics you can get invisible terrain.

These are some tricks in Custlemm that have also been discovered.

Miner glitches
Sliding glitches
Blockers turning fallers
Reverse bashing steel
Forcing a step through the wall when building
Hitting the nuke button when 1 lemming is out and when he enters the exit it says you save 100%
And there's a few more tricks I can't remember
Ahribar
09 Feb 2006 10:42:29
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
Cheapo has its fair share of glitches too, but in my view that's entirely a bad feature.

I vote for Cheapo, of course. It's more versatile -- you can create your own styles with your own traps and objects, you can make vertical-scrolling levels, and the time limit needn't be a whole number of minutes. You also have a much wider choice of music, though of course that depends on the style. And the "instant replay" function makes testing really hard levels like Zorn's Lemming much, much less frustrating.
Leviathan
09 Feb 2006 12:05:25
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
Altough I haven't played cheapo yet,I voted for CustLem...

CustLem has the behaviour of the original lemmings,thus making it much more original to me.

If I find a working version of cheapo somewhere with all required files and styles I'dd be glad to try Cheapo tough...
MC Marshy
09 Feb 2006 15:04:49
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
Leviathan you still haven't finished your 4th pack. I took a look at the demo of the pack and I can't seem to pass any levels at the minute. What day will it be fully complete?
Leviathan
09 Feb 2006 16:47:08
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
Altough this isn't the right topic to discuss this,I'll answer that question: Someone is trying out levels for backroutes,and I need to modify a few levels too.I'm more focussing on the remake at the moment.
DragonsLover
11 Feb 2006 20:33:15
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
Difficult to answer.

I like CustLemm as it is the original way to play the original Lemmings levels made by fans with the original graphics sets. And now, it is possible to make our own special graphic levels.

Cheapo is good too, but isn't the "very" same thing. For Cheapo, I think we pass much of the time to make our own graphics, traps and lemmings instead of building the levels. Also, the editor isn't easy like LemEdit and doesn't have an Undo feature where it could become very annoying. But the fact that we could make everything possible is really cool!

So, I don't know... Both are good, but I think I would prefer CustLemm and LemEdit because it's now the only editor I worked much of the time with.
Isu 2006
13 Feb 2006 00:56:39
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
Does the Megadrive version count? ;)

I think I much rather prefer Cheapo, probably for the same reason as Dragonslover prefers Custlemm. Most of my levels are for cheapo and I have more experience using the editor. However, Custlemm is still rather foreign to me.
Ahribar
13 Feb 2006 10:30:23
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
How much longer do we have to wait before the poll results are revealed?
MC Marshy
22 Feb 2006 13:09:30
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
Custlemm is the best. I don't know anything about cheapo so I'll stick to Custlemm  ;)
drumnbach
23 Feb 2006 14:21:36
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
I prefer Custlemm's level designing software. However, I was never able to get DOS Lemmings to work on my old Dell laptop, so I had to resort to using Cheapo. So I vote Cheapo, even though Custlemm might be better.
Jazzem
23 Feb 2006 15:57:02
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
I haven't had much time with Cheapo so my vote may be a bit biased, but I vote for Custlemm. It's easy to use, takes no time at all to get started and has that lemmings feel about it, your levels really do feel as if they've been created for the original game.

Sadly I'm very lazy when it comes to this sort of thing, so my pak's had practically no progress done. Teenage kicks :P
tseug
24 Feb 2006 00:05:13
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
Sadly I'm very lazy when it comes to this sort of thing, so my pak's had practically no progress done. Teenage kicks :P

You're making a pack? It probably won't take as long as mine.... ;)
Jazzem
25 Feb 2006 10:28:01
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
Yeah, but it's been left untouched for a while. Part of it is on the harddrive from my old computer which I'm hoping to add to my current HD.
Timballisto
25 Feb 2006 17:01:54
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
Neither.  I like the original original Lemmings - music, original mechanics, and if there was any hidden difference between Custlem and Lemmings then Lemmings would have the edge due to its...well, its being the original I suppose.  There is the issue of the fall height...

If I make levels in ONML, I play them on the original ONML as well.
tseug
25 Feb 2006 17:40:42
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
There's custlem2, which has the same fall height as the original game.
ccexplore
24 Mar 2006 21:42:16
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
I see the poll has closed.

Isn't it ironic that for a poll whose results are not revealed until closed, we end up with exactly 50% on each choice?  I for one am surprised.
Sunrise
25 Mar 2006 01:13:17
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
Which therefore proves Cheapo is better.
Insane Steve
25 Mar 2006 05:17:26
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
Huh? How do the results of an opinion-based poll with 16 replies empirically PROVE anything?

Especially when the poll doesn't even clearly support one choice.

I didn't vote despite having made roughly 100 level for each editor. I just can't decide which is better right now.
MC Marshy
25 Mar 2006 21:52:43
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
I find Custlemm the best. Just the thing I hate about it is using the editor in DosBox and it won't work in XP.
geoo89
26 Mar 2006 09:24:44
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
Huh? How do the results of an opinion-based poll with 16 replies empirically PROVE anything?

Especially when the poll doesn't even clearly support one choice.

I didn't vote despite having made roughly 100 level for each editor. I just can't decide which is better right now.
Neither did I. Same reasons, just that I made quite a lot less levels for both.

One thing I don't like at CustLemm is the bad handling, but also Cheapo has its disadvantages.
Shvegait
26 Mar 2006 15:50:18
Re: Cheapo or Custlemm?
I didn't vote either. They are both awesome.  [smiley=smiley.gif]